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Basically the last 2 days I’ve been trying to purchase bitcoins through several different sites but I’m an idiot and didn’t do proper research first. I bought 50 dollars worth on coinbase only to realize it takes 14 days to be able to actually send the coins i already purchased. All i want to do with the bitcoins are use them as deposits into an online poker site I was wondering whats the quickest/easiest way to go about do so. Thanks submitted by
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Let me explain. Let's say I have a poker home party tournament. Everyone sends me the starter fee. When some goes out, sign a multi signature transaction. To win the tournament n-1 has to sign. Then the founds are released.
This would encourage holding and getting bitcoin. While making it legal to arrange poker tournaments in countries like Norway, where it is illegal.
Edit: Moar info
Picture this scenario. You want to arrange a poker party. You download an app for your phone. All the participants in the poker game sends the starting fee to the address displayed in the app. Their sending address will be the address they receive any price coins. As the arranger of the poker game you act as a escrow.
When first person is out, he sends ok to release the founds, if he does not, the escrow take cares of that.
When the tournament is over and there is one winner. The founds are released because all the other players has sign the transaction.
Incentives for making this app, could be:
1) You can sell it on Play Store 2) Some amount of each game could be sent to the developer 3) Donations ofc
What I think is good with this idea is that it gives incentives to people to get bitcoins, no instant cashouts of bitcoins for dollars, like coinbase or bitpay and it's ofc fast.
I wanted to provide a definitive guide for those trying to find the quickest and cheapest way to get their winnings/initial deposit out of various poker sites through the means of cryptocurrency. submitted by
This guide does not recommend cryptocurrency trading and even if you follow all of these steps, there is still a risk for currency fluctuations. It took a lot for me to figure this out and I wanted to pay it forward and help those in the future learn this valuable information. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of this guide, but I will say this is the method I now use. Various state laws can make each step more difficult. However, this method is tailored to the strictest of laws that affect Cryptocurrency issued by New York state.
Ok, so you got some money and want to get it out of a poker or gambling site. Checks are offered, but who has time for that 4 week turnaround on what could be a bad check. So you have decided to get into Cryptocurrency. Here is how the money gets to your bank.
Poker site -> Wallet -> Exchange -> Bank.
1st Step - Getting the money out of your poker account. So you request a withdrawal in cryptocurrency. But which currency? There is Bitcoin (the original), Bitcoin Cash (the fork), Ethereum (New Cool Kid), Tether or Dai (stablecoin) Bitcoin SV, Litecoin, etc.... There are benefits to each currency. Bitcoin is the original and most well known. It is the most traded by far with a market cap (total value) more than all other cryptocurrencies combined. There is also a well established group of people holding bitcoin as an investment to the future. However, Bitcoin also has the most fees and slowest transaction times depending on the fee you pay. Personally I use Ether and Bitcoin Cash. They are based on new versions of blockchain, transfer quickest between wallets and exchanges, and have lower transfer fees. I have not used Dai and Tether, but I will go into stablecoin later.
Step 2 - The Wallet. The wallet is where your money from the pokersite will go. I want to make it very clear. You do not want your money to go from the pokersite to the exchange. The exchange can and will learn it is from a pokersite which can cause you a lot of problems later on. In particular, running a foul of U.S laws and regulations on gaming. So you want the money to go to your wallet. I recommend either Exodus or if you just want Bitcon, Blockstream Green. Exodus though is my go to. You can use it online or through your mobile device. It will automatically scan deposit and withdraw codes for you (this is extremely important so you don't mess up where your money goes). It also has a nice sleek interface and accepts most cryptocurrencies. One thing to point out, Exodus was designed for bitcoin miners at one point who wanted their money out quickly. So, when using bitcoin, it sends and receives your money out as quick as possible using higher fees. You may be concerned by this. However, now you got crypto, lets get it to your exchange.
Step 3 - The Exchange. So there are many exchanges, where you convert your crypto to other crypto or even cash. The three most popular in the US are Cash App, Coinbase, and Gemini. Cash App is easy, if you can set it up. If there is an issue with Cash App, good luck. Their customer support is non-existent (this actually led me to use Coinbase). Basically, you send the money from your wallet to CashApp and then sell the bitcoin in the app. About 20 minutes later the money is in the app and can be sent to your bank. There are various fees, I believe 1.5% to sell the coin, 1.5% to ACH to your account or 1.75% for instant credit to your bank account. I personally use Coinbase Pro. It costs me .5% to sell the crypto. I could then ACH it to my bank account which takes about 5 days. Instead I added another step.
You can link your Coinbase account to your Paypal account. So, when I have cashed out at the cheapest rate at Coinbase Pro, I instant transfer the money to Coinbase and then instant transfer it to paypal. There are no fees for this and there are no fees for Coinbase Pro. Coinbase Pro allows you to do things CashApp or regular Coinbase does not. For example, I held my Bitcoin Cash which came in at 219 and put an order to sell at 230. When Bitcoin Cash hit 230, it sold and I made a couple extra percent return on my money. It was a risk, but wanted to play with a limit order. When the money got to my Paypal account, I instant transferred it to my debit card for 1% fee. I could have ACHed it for free and had the money in a day or two, but I decided to take the quick cash.
Overall, the quickest I have seen cryptocurrency with withdrawals is under 24 hours with Pai Wang Luo Network (Bovada/Ignition) and 3 days for WPN. Once I have received my crypto, the quickest I have been able to hit my account is 1.5 hours.
Now here is the big risk from Cryptocurrency: Currency fluctuation. I have no idea why crypto goes down or up, or why some cryptos go one way while others will go another. General rule, if Bitcoin is up or down, the others are as well. Example: Past 24 Hours (7/5/2020 - 7/6/2020), Bitcoin up 3.1%, Ether 6%, Bitcoin Cash 8.36% Tether -.1%, Dai .68%. Dai and Tether were created to avoid currency fluctuations by tieing themselves to an asset. Tether is "tethered" to the USD. So try one of the those for less risk maybe. But please note, while you have crypto in your wallet and exchange, and it goes up or down, that's your money going up or down.
I hope this helps anyone trying to figure out how to use cryptocurrencies. GL
Yo guys what up just a fellow player on the poker journey...sort of. I will try to be clear and concise about my spot in life and the game to maybe hear some pep up advice from one of you guys. submitted by
Always been fascinated by poker, especially Hold em. Every holiday as a kid I looked forward to playing poker with the family. I always wished so badly that I could play for real and learn the game. Joined the USMC after high school. I had that pokerist app and some other one I would play on deployments when we didnt have wifi available. Always just a distant fascination I had with poker. I got out of the military in 2016 and in 2018 while still playing the app on my phone at work I had an intriguing thought. “I wish I could play poker for real money online”
What do you know, it IS possible in 2018 to play online! It had been possible since I was short stack in the 90’s! (Pun intended)
What really drove me to start playing was the difficulty of reaching my financial goals once my job cut the overtime. I had to get over the paranoia of using bitcoins to play on some site.
I have been playing since, and with some breaks here and there I would chalk up my competitive playing experience to a year and a half. I recently broke 100,000 hands which originally was going to be my deciding point to where this goes. Only recently have I been able to successfully 9 table 2 NL with a positive winrate. Most of this time has been spent on 1 or 2 tables so it has taken a while to get 100k hands. But good God, I forced myself to play every day which has taught me a metric ton about tilt control, and I think I have a positive view on variance.
Throughout this time I would say that the extreme grinding and studying I have put myself through (playing all night without sleeping until I have to go to work too many occasions). That’s just who I am. I attack goals tenaciously, and this game has given me perspective on that.
Enter Covid-19. I was off work for the month of May. I had a winrate of 4bb/100 at 100NL (about 20kish hands, somewhat insignificant) and I was playing awesome. My BR was $2,500 (was going to move to 25NL at a 5 BI downswing). Everything was fine. Then comes this line of thinking “what if they don’t call me back to work? I will be sitting here with 3 months income between my BR and savings..what about after 3 months?” Then begins a week long marathon session consisting of 126 tournaments.
My rationale was that if I keep playing solid and put in heavy volume now that Im not at work, I should be able to grind out a profit hopefully a big one. I final tabled 5 of those tournaments, and cashed in 7. I think I played well but the good old roll disappeared. I was the chip leader of a 100K GTD and in the middle stages I had a set of Q’s sucked out on by a back-door flush draw who shoved the flop. Didn’t win money in that one lol
So ya, I basically had a bunch of lay-off and money fears so I played a bunch of tournaments that were too high. It was expendable money and I felt I had to go for it. I grew a ton as a player, I have never put in so much tournament volume. Aside from the bad BR management I think it was a very valuable experience. Im always hard on myself and maintain the discipline to work through my mistakes. This was just a one time go for it thing that I think a lot of people probably go through. Left me without a roll so the last bit of it I was in that “gotta get unstuck” mindset which sucked.
I still have a good job. I’m still in really good shape. Starting classes in July, I can finish my bachelor’s in one year. I haven’t played for about a month until today. I got a free $33 ticket from ACR to play on. Busted out of the tourney with Top Two, month off brings back some of those bad habits I guess.
It’s just hard for me to study the game so hard, and actually play well without turning much of a profit. I know it won’t happen overnight, and I can’t do what I did last time. As a matter of fact I will probably leave tournaments the F*@$ alone forever. In that tourney today there were all kinds of crazy Preflop all-ins. Tournaments just dont feel like poker to me sometimes. After a lot of reflection, I realized that in order to show a profit I have to get in volume. In order to get volume with a full time job, gotta at least play 6 tables when I get home from work.
But the current state of the game is really in the muck. (Yes, intended =] ) I mean, low limit live players are throwing cards and berating the play of others, online is just crazy as always. Seems like not a soul even at the lowest stakes live or online is even happy playing the game. It is super hard to win when the player pool is improving all the time which compounds with sick variance. Every time I try and switch things up and try a new game or play maybe a bit more calm my dreams get shit on. I still want to play once I start my classes. I think I will deposit 500 and play exclusively micro stakes cash games. I dread it though, because it is going to take a fuck lot of time to grind the roll back to where I had it. Idk man, I’m just wondering in what way I can move forward with poker in a positive direction.
No I don't work for the damn site. Actually, I hate it. I hate the insane length of late reg and the insane length of tourneys (8+ hours easily) but the games right now are insanely active. submitted by
The $50, $100k guarantee that started this afternoon had 3100 entrants and almost doubled the guaranteed prizepool. The $100 $50k guarantee that usually struggles to match the prizepool has over 1,100 entrants. The $15, $50k guarantee is over 3200 entrants.
If you're a regular on Ignition or ACR, these are numbers you rarely ever see. If you're a MTT player, now is definitely the time to log on and try to win some cash.
Can't buy a hardware wallet right now. Looking for good software wallet. Any good ideas? submitted by
EDIT: Blockstream Green*
So first start by saying I have "Real" Online work but it requires me to work about 30 mins a day... I work on this other stuff 8-10 hours a day and earn a full-time income alone from this stuff alone...
I'm not including any affiliate signs ups I get when I say earning a living from this
I highly advise you get a cheap Laptop to work on... You cant use your phone ( for the work stuff )
I would recommend something like a Thinkpad 430i, I'm pretty sure I bought one for £85 as I needed a cheap laptop for something else and its been solid
normally they come with dud batteries, You can find a replacement HERE Appen | non-ref
( I will get $25 if you work I think its 100 hours )
- Payout Method - Payoneer
- Minimum payment - $5
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- They offer a lot of different Tasks some ranging from 0.04 to $3 per task Some can be completed Once or thousands of time - I highly Advise signing up for this site - Make sure you fill out your profile in full and make sure their emails are not going into your spam folder
( I will get 5 when you earn 10 )
- Payout Method - Paypal
- Minimum Payment - € 5
- The best way to make money on Clickworker is through UHRS - Once you have signed up, Click on Assessments on the top bar and take the test, This is the best way to earn on here. Some of the basic tasks without UHRS can also pay Decent sometimes.
- Payout Method - Paypal
- Minimum Payment - £5
- By far (In my opinion) The best survey site in terms of consistent pay, Make sure your Profile is always at 100% ( I also always have a tab open with this so I can grab them right away)
- Payout Method - Cheque
- Minimum Payment - £50
- They pay by check once you reach £50 and its sent monthly, Normally they pay between £1-£4, I normally get 2-4 surveys per day I would say
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- Payout Method - Paypal
- Minimum Payout - $7
- I do the $1 or $1.25 surveys
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( No Bonus ) - I will earn 15% of what you earn
- Payout Method - Bitcoin, Transferwise + Others
- Minimum Payout - $10, They pay every Thursday
- I would normally do the Yoursurveys .75 surveys here but they pay $1 on GG2U But I have had good luck with Revenuewall and Flapbuck surveys and some can pay pretty decent... The site looks terrible and they used to have Paypal but removed it... I use this only when I have nothing else to do... One of the things, I have had the most luck on here in terms of not getting DQ ( This was one of the first I started using )
Panelbase - Sign up HERE
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( No Bonus ) - Quidco will pay you £0.80p to sign up and if you sign up through my link you will also get a £10 bonus on Quidco when you reach £5 cashback
Some decent surveys on here, I normally check and do them when they are over £1
I mainly focus my time on Appen, If there is no work on Appen then I will see if there are tasks on Neevo if not then I move to the other sites... I only use the lower-paying survey sites when I have nothing else to do
I still do have something that guaranteed you money regardless, So even if I have a slow do saying this there is no pressure because my other work is there. This past week happen has been slow for me but I was able to smash out thousands of tasks on Neevo which made that up
Here is also some good offers on a few different sites, They should be the highest paying for that offer
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You will get the bonus once you reach £10 payable cashback
Once you have signed up, here are the offers
They also have a £15 Cashback on a Just Eat order of £15, Worth it for some free food
Betfair Poker - £50 Cashback for signing up and playing £10 of poker | £10 Spend
GiffGaff - £10 Cashback - Order and activate a new sim, The Cheapest package is £6
SearchLoto - £0.82 - Create your account, Make 25 Searched, and use Free Ticket.
Experian - £3 - Sign up for a new account
Graze - £2.47, Order your first box then cancel when it arrives
Totally Money - £2.10 - Make an account and get a free credit report
Tastecard - £3.30 - Free 2 Months trial
Booking buddy - 2p ( Can do 3x per day ) - Make a search.
Quidco - REF
( £10 Bonus ) | NON-REF
( NO BONUS )
Bonus is once you reach £5 cashback
Azimo - £25 Cashback - Make a Minimum Transfer of £151 ( Send the transfer to your other account )
Paddy Power Games £20 Cashback - Deposit and wager £10
Panelbase - £0.80p - Create an account and do a survey ( I highly recommend using this site )
Pick My Postcode - £.80p - Create an account.
booking buddy - 2p ( Can do 3x per day ) - Make a search.
Swagbucks - REF
( Around £4 BONUS ) | NON-REF
( NO BONUS )
To get the £4 bonus you need to earn 300SB in your first month, Since the offers at the bottom I would do the two offers listed, Then make the rest up by doing 3/4 Surveys but other than this please do not waste your time on Swagbucks doing surveys, I only do them if to complete swago or if they are pretty high paying.
AyeT- CyberGhost VPN Free Trial - 54SB
Adgem - Norton VPN Free Trial - 63SB
100SB Bonus - Install the Swagbutton
Rise of Kingdoms - 4000SB - Get to hall Level 17
Lottoland - 1300SB - Click the offer and it will take you to the sign-up and will cost £1 ( Make sure auto-renewal isn't on )
GG2U - REF
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( No $1 if there is a bonus )
William hill ( Find this under Gaming Offers ) - Deposit £10 and wager £10 - Around £27 Back
Normally the Gala offers pay higher but none of them are available anywhere, Normally pay around £40, on TCB or Quidco but they have no offers right now for them
Ysense - REF
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Click Offers, Then Offertory
Final Fantasy 100K Power - $10.16. I did this before and I spent £1 and completed really quickly, It was an XP reward I bought, It gave millions of Hero XP which gave enough power
I highly advise you don't waste time on this site doing surveys
- Like happen but this is more strict and I also found Appen paid more for the Project I am on. Teamwork
- Like Appen and Lionbridge, I have done some work for them in the past everything was fine and paid on time. Apple at Home Advisor
- Work at home Advisor for Apple. Pretty sure they send you an iMac to work on tho I could be wrong
Pretty sure Amazon has remote work also. If you google a company and then "Remote" or at home, It should let you see if they have work
I had these 3 on a list Its transcription work but Appen, Lionbridge, and Teamwork offer this and probably best going for them. Rev transcribe
Sites/Apps that are legit + my thoughts on them Swagbucks ( Around £4 Bonus )
( No Bonus )
I only do offers on here but I always check other sites before doing them to see if better paying elsewhere and I do swago when it comes up - Do not do surveys unless they are offering a few £ as they normally DQ - Only do Offers, Don't waste your time on anything else Serpclix
You install the plugin and it pops up with a task to search for a website... I barely use it but I would say its worth using for some extra cash ( Some users say £10-£30 a month on here ) Branded Surveys
Had a few payouts, Too many DQ would avoid unless nothing else Life Points
Had some decent paying surveys, But too many DQ.. I would personally avoid Qmee ( 50p Bonus )
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In my opinion, it's not worth the time, I do probably 1 or 2 surveys per week and I only touch the ones 75p + unless they take to long... I don't think you should focus anytime on it unless you have nothing else.
Don't waste your time, I listed an offer for it above other than them offers.. Don't bother, People only want sign-ups to this cause they pay like 15% of earnings and I think around £5 when someone reached a certain amount
SliceThePie- Don't bother, Its clearly about 10p an hour HoneyGain ($5 Bonus I think )
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It uses your unused internet in the background, it's perfectly safe personally for me I've not had much luck but it comes down to location and how many devices you are using 20Cogs ( £20 Bonus on cashout )
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This is legit but most offers do pay better elsewhere and you need to hit 20 confirmed cogs before they payout, I have done offers on here and have my 20cogs pending but make sure you always check other sites to make sure you are getting the most amount of profit... I mostly do offers on here that I have not seen anywhere else.
PrizeRebel - Don't waste your time.
Microworkers - Can pay decent if you can rattle off some fast task but - Its a pain to get paid, Customer service pretty much ignores you and a lot of the jobs and links are sketchy as hell
I know nothing about this stuff but you can also teach English online and get paid for it. You might need an ESL certificate. The pay is pretty decent if you can get work If this is something you are interested in I highly advise you do some research for it because its decent work vipkid
- Teach English to kids online, If you want to find more I would advise you to look through Reddit as a lot of users on here use this for work, There are more sites than just this that you can work for, I think they pay from $15-$25 per hour. QKid
- Same as vipkid teaching English online- I think this pays up to $20 per hour gogokid
- Teach English Online $14-25 per hour
There will be more sites than this but these are the ones I know of.
I don't recommend you bring crap in from china there is enough of that,,, My advise would start small, Start by Buying stock from Supermarkets or other online retailers this is called retail arbitrage and then sending that in but make sure you are allowed to sell in that category, also if your going down the video game route that you sell Used video games and older back catalog titles as these hold higher profit margins than new stock, Lego, Toys, etc are good things to keep an eye out for you can also look for this sort of stuff on the Facebook market place
There is very little profit in new stock unless you can pick it up and most of the time you'd be selling at a loss because the big retailers can sell it for the price you buy it
Use Amazons courier ( they use ups) it's like £5 to send in a 15KG Box
Get the hang of it to figure out what works for YOU! Don't follow anyone on youtube and what they say to do... Of course, if you want to make serious money which you can do, You will need to get suppliers, etc but no one will tell you where to get these, and the ones found easily through google search will make you very little if any money using... Here is also some things I recommend using ( I use them or have used them ) Barcode Scanner
( I only use my PC so need scanner ) Barcode Scanner With Stand Epson XP-3100 FBA Labels Bags
- I use a mixture of different one but these are fine for smaller things.
You don't need to buy the best printer or anything like that these work perfectly fine... You only need that stuff if you're doing thousands of labels per day
As I said before, Don't be scared to try this its actually pretty fun and can make good money just please people on youtube UK and US, Try it see what works for you
Also Amazon handmade but I still think Facebook is a great way to start selling handmade stuff ( if its quality )
First, I recommend you don't touch anything to do with this stuff if you have any mental health problems, feel lonely, etc this can ruin your life if you go off the deep end
Matched Betting - You can make good money from this and I think everyone should do it, It's not complicated once you get the hang of it but don't use Profit Accumulator or the other one that charges £17 a month, in my opinion, it isn't worth it ... You could use something like Team Profit to get the hang of it and then take the £1 profit accumulator trial then get more info from there but cancel before the £17 month
The more money you have to do this the more you're going to make, It can be pretty slow if you are starting with a low amount of money but when you're doing these, Make sure you check cashback sites or offerwalls to see if they will pay you for signing up
People promote PA because they have a good affiliate program
This is different and you need a website or social media platform, You would have deals with the casinos, Bookmakers, etc But the money, if you get it right, is absolutely ridiculous... This is why you see these guys on youtube spinning such high amount of cash on the casino, If you are good at building sites or have a boatload of cash to chuck at this
You would post them and when people sign up through your link you could be on CPA ( Cost per Acquisition ) RS= Revenue share, So you would get % of a player losses or you could be on a hybrid
This money is life-changing if you get it right but since there is so much cash it is not easy... These sites are spending 10s of thousands a month to be at the top search results.
Cashback Websites JoinHoney
- Saves you money by searching for coupon codes, I place a monthly order on a website and it saves me between 20-40 each time, Well worth installing when you shop online TopCashBack
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£5 Bonus once you reach £10 payable cashback, I listed some good deals at the top of the post ( Check yourself for more on the site ) Also can save money when shopping online Quidco
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You get the £10 bonus once you reach £5 cashback, Same as top cashback... Some offers listed above and you can also get cashback shopping online
My favorite Offer Xendpay (£10 Bonus
( No bonus )
Sign up and Verify your account, Make a transfer of £100 and you will get £10 free.. You can just transfer the money to yourself but you will need an account that takes euros as you need to send £ to euro
Before you sign up to an offer on this sub, Please check on cashback sites to see if they pay more than a ref link, Example is the Azimo link it has been posted on this sub on the past few days, You only get £10 from that but you will get £25 through Quidco + £10 bonus if you are new to the site
There is also a scam that's posted a lot on Reddit, They claim to pay you $25 to sign up then $25 per person you sign up, This is a scam they go by a few different names sites all look the same with the same fake payouts
I hope this helps someone out.
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